it's nasty, expensive, and all the seating areas are taken huge waste of time

I thought it was a ruse to get less people to sign up for the lottery.

I wonder what other festival ( out of the hundreds) he thinks is better

Josh maybe yer right… :lol

SUR
:cheers

may I just say I secretly love you? In a strictly heterosexual way… ahem. How bout them bears?

I never met you last year but i kept seeing this lampshade walking around with a person under it and thought it was fantastic.

:lol :lol :lol :lolYour pretty adorable, in a strickly hetro way :lol :lol :l

had to add my 2 cents to this one.

It is obvious this is part of the intergalactic struggle that has been happening
for many moons. “We the people”, are all part of the extraterrestrial organization and the
bozo that had a bad time is part of the alien invasion here on earth.
It’s an old struggle, et’s trying to live peacefully, whatever planet they are on, and the
aliens trying to create chaos and disrupt harmony…
It is all well documented in the book E.T. 101, co-created by Mission Control and Zoev Jho

so, yes, this guy should not return to our peaceful paradise :flower

The festival in Telluride is wonderful.
Any activity you choose to be part of is what you make it. There were wonderful activities and music for the kids but it sounds like you didn’t explore any of that.
I don’t know if you had a fight with your wife that morning, or were pissed off at your boss, or what had put you in a foul mood, but it seems like you already had a bug up your butt before you even set foot in town park. I’m gonna guess that you did little or no research beforehand or you would have had at least an idea of what to expect.
The people who attend this festival are a huge extended family, and this is a reunion of sorts. I just feel bad for your kids, who probably could’ve had a great time if you had let them.
It is expensive, I’ll give you that. But to say all the “seating areas” are taken, well what did you expect? It is not a concert hall. It IS one of the premier festivals in a beautiful setting by a clear mountain river in a spectacular box canyon where the music resounds off the canyon walls.
(Most) People are happy here. We sing, we dance, we play music, we eat good food, we care for the Earth, we make new friends every year, we ooh and ahh over the new babies, we cheer for the musicians, we laugh, we wear tie-dye, we drink, we smoke, we sit by the waterfall, we celebrate the communal joy of being lucky to be in Telluride, and we LIVE. Do you? I can only shake my head in dismay. Sorry you were so disappointed, but I’m not sorry that you won’t be coming back.

don’t need him there anyway…can’t wait to get back myself :flower

BTW…my 12 year old daughter had the time of her life…we’ll both be back next year…can’t wait!!!

Smile!


My wife and I have been traveling across the country for years to TBF.
We have now brought our daughter for 3 years now. We have had great luck meeting great people in the Family area. Last year we were surrounded by several great families, all the kids got along and played and had a great time! We all shared drinks and food and fun was had by all!!! Sounds like you didn’t do your homework before you took your family on vacation.
Looking forward to my daughters 4th festival!!!

So this guy has been going to rock concerts and festivals all over the world and this is his first time smelling weed? Give me a break.

That being said, I can see why some people could have some of the experiences he described. This was my first Telluride, and my girlfriend and I had an AWESOME time and plan to go again. But honestly, the seating situation at TBF is a little ridiculous. I understand the history of the event and how the current system of tarps and seating has evolved, but I don’t think it’s a good or necessarily reasonable system.

First of all, it’s not feasible (or remotely desireable) for everyone to camp out all nite in line or show up early enough to get a good spot. We camped at Warner Field, and a couple days we got there a little over an hour before the gates opened and we got okay spots for two chairs. No tarp, just two chairs. No real big complaint there, but even though everyone says its the “unofficial rule” that an open tarp is up for grabs, the reality of our experience, and the various new friends we made at the fest, is people weren’t very accomodating. The typical situation we had is finding an enormous tarp with 2-3 people on it for most the day. Although those people always said “sure” when asked if it was okay if we crashed their “temporarily,” it was never comfortable. It was obvious that we were invading their space and were being scrutinized or under watchful eyes. It was hard for me to understand why groups of people stay up all night to get a big tarp up close, only to monopolize a large space of prime viewing area for never more than a handful of people at a time. I understand that these are big groups of friends who are all camped or staying together, but they are never all there at the same time, so why the huge tarp?

I can see why the system has evolved this way, but I think the organizers should take a look at the fact that at almost any point in the entire day, a 1/3 to 1/2 of prime viewing spots are unoccupied, and that seems a big waste to me. Especially because there are people like the guy who started this thread, who show up with family and if you walked in at 1PM with a spouse and two kids, any spot for you to fit into is probably over by the dumpsters near the food court where the sound and view isn’t the greatest.

Some ideas I had that could improve this situation is perhaps restricting the size of tarps. The other would be (I don’t know if it’s possible) to add a second stage of music that would spread people out more, and encourage people to move around so that people aren’t so bent on monopolizing the same space all day.

I do attend many other music festivals in this country, and while they all have their unique advantages and disadvantages, I would say the tarp and seating situation at TBF is by far its biggest disadvantage and something that could be improved.

I would like to take this opportunity to call “Same Seats” for next year! Myself and my Utarpia crew love our spot. It is very precisely selected. Doc Mike has southern limits our latitude due to wanting a clear view of Ingram Falls during the day.

Same seats, wouldn’t that be great! :lol

I did notice the huge tarps this year, space mongers :rolleyes

…Figure I’ll add my 1/50th of a dollars worth as well here :).

I think the original poster, like others have implied, entered into the whole festivarian experience with a less than festive outlook. I find it hard to believe that he was unable to see even one act, nor find some available tarpage or space for he and his family. I’ve been to 3 TBF’s thus far and have never had any problem finding a seat with a good view (there aren’t any ‘bad seats’ … unless you choose to sit right behind a speaker tower). Regarding asking to share some tarpage, we’ve never had a bad experienced nor received any disconcerting looks or glances. Maybe I’ve just been lucky and was always blessed with meeting folks that have true festivarian demeanor.

Regarding the mammoth tarps, I do agree with the previous poster that questioned the reason behind that. I’d always thought that tarpage was limited to 10 by 10 or 12 by 12. Perhaps that can be better enforced.

I think the original poster may well be one of those folks who chooses to not make the best of things and had several preconceived notions about what the experience would be like and had his mood set afoul upon not seeing his expectations come to fruition.

RockyMtnGuy

I agree about the mindset coming into it…that’s why we were still able to have such a great time. It was like this: 1) we’re in this amazing, beautiful place 2) there’s a way cool vibe to telluride 3) the lineup is stellar 4) the seating arrangement sucks … okay, well, there’s no way I’m gonna let #4 ruin all the other great things so we’ll just a bitch a bit and do our best to get in where we fit in. Believe me, the seating arrangement bummed me out more than I’ve been bummed out at almost any festival (minus Outside Lands and the 45 minute waits for bathroom and beers), but how the hell do you let that ruin your experience given everything else that’s going on? That’s why I still find it hard to believe this guy’s been going to so many said concerts…because every concert and festival has some drawbacks as far as dealing with crowds, lines, viewing lines, obnoxious people, etc. and the issues at Telluride are not layered that deep.

It just seems to me that the tarp deal can be modified or resolved in some way. Even if people are very hospitable while you “crash” their tarp, there’s nothing relaxing about knowing that at any moment right in the middle of one of your favorite band’s set, just as you’re catching a buzz, you might get booted out.

Sounds like the person hasn’t done big festivals; smelly people come with them - esp when you have to pay $2 for a cold shower. People are smoking pot in Colorado? Shocking. Can somebody put a flag pole with a big leaf so I know where in 2009.

I’ve shown up a few years and only had an issue inside the grounds once. It’s a pretty peaceful place, and there is always a place to sit. Not sure where he was looking.

The sound? Except for Ryan Adams last year it was wonderful.

I have my problems with Telluride, and you won’t find me in Town Park again. But for a festival of its size, it’s about as well run as one can expect for mere mortals.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :medal

can’t think of a better place I would rather “waste my time”
the old saying that one man’s trash is anothers’ treasure holds true
expensive?? the joys that flow freely in that box canyon are priceless

blessings to all…good luck in the tp lottery :medal

I got a bunch in my sock… and almost got a blister…
my beer was served in this weird flimsy cup…
I had to poop whilst hovering over the porta john
and at one point… I shit you not, it frickin snowed… June dude… Snow…
NEVAR AGAIN>