That’s a really good idea, Bev. I’m sure neighbors would vouch for anyone that might be in the restroom at 3:30am. You just have to make sure everyone fill in the gaps once the chairs are piled up. Hehe.
I like the idea too. Last year was our first year at TBF and luckily enough our first time in TP. It was just two of us last year so we didn’t worry about the tarp line or the unattended chairs. However, this year there are six of us going and we will likely be waiting in the tarp line. I’m not looking to “police” people or cause any trouble, but I will have absolutely no problem throwing an unattended chair out of the line.
I believe that is the incident that led people to start zip-tying their chairs to the fence. Not that I didnt think it was a splendid idea, but when people come back and see all their @#%$ in a big pile in the middle of the volleyball court, they get pissed and look to get back at others. That doesn’t lead anywhere good nor generate festivarian type vibes.
But it also doesn’t create good festivarian vibes when people leave unattended chairs all night and show up just in time to get a number when everyone is following the rules and staying in line all night. That just makes everyone else in line who followed the rules mad. So regardless, one side is going to get a little riled. And if you are trying to cheat the system you deserve to have your chair thrown out of line even if that makes you mad. Although you would have no one to blame but yourself.
“Smokey, this isn’t 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules!”
True, but it’s not like the people in line actually follow the rules anyhow. What will be given to the people sleeping in line (I vote bananas) since raspberries are for people who aren’t there?
Ahhh for the days when people actually stayed awake in line, hung out, & picked instead of bringing full-on cots and going to sleep. Seems like it’s been at least a few years since that happened, barring the usual suspects like Claire, Tim & Alexa, et all.
If the line is going to take on the responsibility for policing the line…
The line will take on the responsibility for getting the word out to everyone that sets a chair down in the line. Believe me, the warning shot, the “Warning Raspberries”, on Thursday evening will get around pretty fast in ALL of the campgrounds.
The line will work out just fine this year, probably better than years before, if EVERYONE POLITELY gets the word out that the line is self policing this year and the ground rules set out by Planet Bluegrass will be followed, as they pertain to empty chairs in the line.
This is NOT about planning an ambush on Fellow Festivarians, because that’s what we are up there, Fellow Festivarians. Hurricane M is my Fellow Festivarian, you are my Fellow Festivarian, The person with the empty chair is your Fellow Festivarian.
Be Kind, Loving and True Festivarians about this matter, because I’m tellin’ ya, if Uncle Ferg has to take care of this, your’re gonna’ wish it was your Mama taking ya out of church. TRUST ME on this one.
Yes, it’s been a problem in past years. You’ve come up with a wonderful idea and that wonderful idea has plenty of backing. Trust in your own ideas, trust your own planing that it will not be a problem this year. Put it out there in the universe, put it out there in the camps around you, and all will be wonderful.
See the Monks… :flower Hear the Monks… :flower Be the Monks… :flower
Chill … :cheers
This sounds great so long as it is for all people and ALL rules.
If you are going to enforce anything, start with the people who are SLEEPING IN LINE and then deal with the rest. Are you going to personally ensure everybody stays awake all night, every night? Or is this just a, this is great for the first night, but not the last few nights once people get tired?
What about the people who sleep in line?
Don’t go enforcing arbitrary rules because you think they don’t/do apply to you and no one else.
Don’t think you are the first ones to try and enact something. Don’t think you are the first ones to think you have come up with the answer. Apply it to everyone for ALL the rules is all I am saying.
What about the people who sleep in line? what happens then? Are you going to wake them up and ensure they stay awake till the numbers come around at $;30, 5:00, 6:00, or even as late as 7:00?
what about the people who are gone from before last set till 2:00am? They are ok but the people who are gone from 2am-4:30am are not?
What about the people who sleep in line?
What if someone is gone from midnight-thirty till 3am for nightgrass? are they ok because someone in some chair, somewhere, vouches for them?
What about the people who sleep in line?
The line has always been an organic thing, accepting & bemoaning the line practices that exist. That has always been one of the the great atmospheres of the line.
How do you think the Telluride Tanning Society started?
What about the people SLEEPING in line that STILL get their numbers?
This is not something that has just come up overnight, folks. this is something that has been ongoing for decades. The whole, don’t get in line till the last act finishes was only something in the last few years. Anyone remember the older woman who carried her chairs out to her side and blocked people from going around her just because she wanted everyone else to wait? What about people got in line for the next day before the first act even started? the line has advanced over the years, for sure. Line stories are great because of the line and the things that happen in it
What about the people who sleep in line?
The line is __THE LINE.
Get in it. Sit Down. Hold on tight (if you aren’t sleeping) and wait till the sun rises up over Black Bear Pass. then have a drink and celebrate with the people who are actually awake to see it. If you don’t like it, then get there earlier.
This isn’t the first time at the rodeo for most people.
Yes THE LINE…sigh…every blasted year this happens…
There is no sleeping in line according to the “rules” and all I have seen is people complain about the people who aren’t there.
What about the people who sleep in line?
Yes, I show up. Yes, I stay awake (with the help of my friends and their adult beverages). Yes, I get a number I am almost always happy with (well except my kids want numbers now too). Yes, I get my spot or pretty darn close to it. Yes, I do wander around to check out the late night pickin’.
Don’t you?
& perhaps that is also the point I raise.
Don’t you get your spot? Or is it that you are 2 tarps over and 1 tarp down from where you want to be? Think about it.
Do the chairs affect your spot or just your sense of fairness?
It sounds pretty authoritarian in here.
I do actually realize (even tho it doesn’t seem like it) that everyone has the best intentions I’d love to be able to get out there at 4.30 to get in line and not see empty chairs. But more than that, I would like people not to get out there at 5:00 and ‘sneak’ into a high spot because someone is SLEEPING IN LINE.
Who will be the first one to pull the trigger? I am sure as #@$@# not a narc, are you? as the Capt’n said “We’re Festivarians, not cops.” Nor do I think we want to be cast in that light.
Talk. discuss. Suggest, even. But don’t go around and touch people’s things without a pretty freaking good darn reason. And that reason sure as heck fire is not that they have been gone for an hour or so, when your friends and your seats were empty at some other time you deemed acceptable.
What are you going to do, then, for the people sleeping in line?
Yes, I have been in the front of the line and I have been at the end of the line and NO ONE follows all the rules. Not even Claire. (Can’t wait to see you Claire!) NO ONE.
So the people who sleep in line are ok but the people who get up and go check out the late night picking are not?
anyhow. I hope to see lots of you in line.
I will be there.
I will try my best to keep you awake.
There is NO sleeping in line.
If it wasn’t for TRADITION we would do things in the Town Park line like we do at Folks and Rocky. Show up, get your random number, and oh well it was random and good thing we had 50 people in our camp instead of only 5 so we could get lots of numbers instead of putting in our time and getting where we sat.
Or is it only because this is TBF that people have an issue?
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and as a side note.
I love the line.
As it is.
I love the people who sleep and jump 10 feet out of their sleeping bags when someone comes up and scares them. I love the Anahuac (sp?) that happens that a lot of people don’t know about because they are sleeping or gone. I love the conversations I have at 4 in the morning when people want to go to sleep but are waiting for their replacements even though lots of people don’t get them. I love the middle of the night kickball games the last few years that suddenly erupt from the people who are still there and awake. I love when Rick, Dave, Todd, Timmay, Shawn, others, and the Porta Potty Crew (hopefully they will be here this year) come out to play music for people. I love when the number guy comes out and gives people their numbers and then kicks people who are sleeping to give them their number. I even love when the number guy comes out to give the numbers but someone (I wont mention names) suggests they go back to his truck for other indulgements first and they forget about us in line. I love running the @#$@# out of the bathroom to get to my chair because someone yelled out ‘NUMB3RS!!!’ I love drunken horseshoes to stay awake. I love the sunrise. I love all those people who are still awake and have the big bags under their eyes because they are still there. I could give a shoot about the other people who aren’t there because I am. And so are you. Why don’t you love it too?
I love the line people simply because they are out there. Even the sleeping ones that I try to wake up.
What about the people who sleep in line?
What about the people who sleep in line?
What about the people who sleep in line?
You know, I think this is totally the people in Warner Fields fault. There was never an issue till they started putting people in there.
Yes. I love Festivarians, so long as she doesn’t piss on my tent and then try to deny it which is another story for another time, and I do LOVE the LINE.
Long live the line. Hopefully it can stay a TBF line instead of a RG or Folks line which are really not as much fun.
dang when is my pager going to stop waking me up in the middle of the night and making me a curmudgeon
Really, isn’t there a better idea? A lottery each day to distribute numbered cards perhaps?
And the extra money could even benefit a cause.
The present system makes for a line that renews itself almost immediately. Literally, two to three hours after admission each morning the line regenerates, while the artists perform.
I’m sure that no one would miss the Tradition.
This could be a significant improvement for so many, many, reasons.