Hiking Bear Creek

[FaceOnMars]

@Iriecycle post:13

Discussion of Private Property Rights, I’m sure fits in with discussion of Politics and Religion. Nearer to heart to many than either Politics or Religion. Lets start with your body. First it was your Mum’s, then your parents to care for, then it was yours. Is that body in the womb the possession of the Mother? If so, what percentage is the Father’s? “If you don’t like what the Big Chief say, you say, ‘Jackamo Fee Nah Neh.’” Look it up. Good Luck. You’d have an easier time looking up CONCUPISCENCE, and that would require at least a pre-1850’s definition. Even then you might find some repressive pre-1850’s definition. As far as the “Aiko, Aiko,” part, ya’ll got that or you would not be on this forum. And while I’m on my soapbox; why does the Devil need an advocate? Last time I checked (now) he does not need another advocate. Imagine communication without adversity. Is it possible? Peace on Earth. Truth, Non-violence, even in thought. Self-regulating people, self- aware to check every thought. Certainly difficult when the palette of the mind is mine and mine alone, though possible as many seekers, Profits, and Saints have shown. Ever notice in the Sistine chapel’s Michelangelo how GOD (in his bearded, and anthropomorphic, splendor) is pointing at man (ADAM) and Adam is limply reaching to GOD with the support of his own knee. I and I might try reaching like it was the most important reaching in our lives, all the time. Rather than have a tracery experience with the Spirit, why not Primary and let our fear, mock-control, and pride fade away. Shirtless anywhere, privacy to be found in our wilderness, naked before Him, always. “Him,” with lacking femininity? Impossible. “It,” not such gracious reference. Love ya, for real.

Can’t remember if it was Billy or Mickey, but one of them was being interviewed when I learned that Jackamo Fee Nah Neh = kiss my rear.

From outer space, this big blue ball which is spinning spinning free is just ONE “unit” … all the while there are countless sets of (two good) eyes embedded in this unit which are wired/programmed to discern boundaries, yet very few can see the interconnectedness of everything … which is fine, it’s just that it’s difficult to have the two paradigms coexist as evidenced by much of U.S. History and how those who didn’t buy into the whole private property paradigm were “relocated”.

[Iriecycle]

From FaceOnMars: It’s actually not a half bad idea!

… although I can still see people bringing out individual tarps to place on the big communal tarp.

(Can’t get this partial quote thing)

. . . and there could be a picnic basket and blanket space on the big oneness

[Iriecycle]

Jackamo = Big Party

Feenahnee = I don’t work for the man no more

[ShatteredArm]

@landshark

OK just one more thought on this. I live full time on a mountain top. Most of my neighbors are here only briefly in the Summer. We are surrounded by 3 different State and National parks. Trails abound. I leave the house and hit the trail in less then 2 minutes. I have hiked this hike for 20 years and yep I bet if I checked I could place an easment on several properties that are near a trail. But would I ever even consider treating my neighbors land as mine , heck no. I would never take something that is not mine in the first place. Open ended invitation, many folks sre greedy and look for that small crack of oppertunity to gain.

How would you (or somebody else) gain from such an easement? Assuming you can place an easement on someone else’s property, it doesn’t mean it’s yours. It just means you are legally allowed to continue to use it the way you have been using it. You can’t sell your easement on the market. You can’t start farming or mining it. All you can do is keep doing what you’ve done for over 18 years. Getting a prescriptive easement is, almost by definition, not profiteering.

[FestiTrey]

Wow, I just read about this debacle in the January edition of Outside…or at least I assume I did if this is all related to the crap that Tom Chapman is trying to do with Bear Creek and See Forever run. Towards the end of the article, it made it seem like this was more of a threat than a reality because he probably didn’t have the financial backing to do what he was threatening anyway. At least I hope not! The guy seems like a total prick so when I’m in Telluride this weekend, I will be looking for my own TOM CHAPMAN IS A DOUCHE BAG sticker.

Sorry, I don’t have any photos of Bear Creek to share, but for those interested in the article, you can find it online here:

http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/natural-intelligence/Backcountry-Monopoly.html?page=all

[kerrybolger]

I have several photos to share. I have hiked that trail 20-50 times per year for the past ten years or more. Love it!

[lawyerKen]

Kerry:

I sent you an e-mail but it may have been filtered to junk.

Ken.